The 1000 Day Holiday

It came about in Udaipur via 2 canadian girls I met that I ended up having dinner with a “reformed” gem scammer.

This is a person who dupes tourists into thinking they can make 50k by transporting ‘gems’ to their own country and selling them to a related gem company to avoid duty. but having to pay the 10k insurance cost for transporting them.

Some of the conversations had - Trying to make this make sense:

Foreign women showing too much flesh

Him: You see them, and they have tight crop tops on that show their mid riff etc. How do you think indian men are going to react? of course we are going to go crazy when we see that. They should respect the indian culture and cover up.

My response: How is that different to the indian women wearing saris etc, where you can see the midriff, and a reasonably tight top.

We dont want the western culture. we must preserve our culture as we move forward.

If a Foreign Tourist (woman) is raped by an indian whos fault is it?

  His thoughts: its brought on by them being prvocative by wearing things seen in the movies. In the movies all westerners are easy. So its like: hello, and then wham bam!

Me: You do realise that movies and reality are not the same thing. Bollywood definately reinforces that fact. everyone doesnt spontaneously sing and do synchronised dances in the rain. Are you saying that you have no self control when you see something you like

Him: Well back ‘when i was bad’ going into the movie theatre and there would be a crown we would push, and then jump and grab at any girls we could reach.

Me: So it has nothing to do with western girls showing too much flesh. The problem is with your culture disrespecting women.

Him: disagree & change of subject

Freedom and what it means

 He thought freedom was a bad thing. He compared western girls with indian women. They should not think, or work and have dreams/aspirations but soley support whatever the husband decides. Education is not for women, what is the point?

You (to the two western girls at dinner) what does freedom give you? you go travelling, have sex, get an abortion and then in later life regret it. You want to work, have a career. Then you get too old and cant have kids. Then regret it. You take mens jobs. Then they cant support their families.

Birth rate: India vs Western

Him: See what happens when you give women freedom. They are young and have sex with whoever. And then they get pregnant. have an abortion. And then years later when they can no longer have babies and are single. they resent this. I have met many western women like this. You see in europe, the birth rate is one or two per couple. This is not right.

Me: So youre saying we shouldnt use contraception/should have a higher birthrate.

Him: look at india, its growing at 8%, no other county is. its going to be the most populous country in 30 years. We need to keep the population growing to sustain the growth.

Me: Look at the pay rates, and standard of living. Getting workers to hit boulders on a mountain pass (17000+ft) with a 500g hammer to create rock chips to maintain the road for a pittance is not living. instead of using mechines that can do the job more efficiently. get the income up, and have a mechanical revolution. 

Another example. Hiring 30 people to make lumber in a forest on a hill, using axes and 2 man pull saws (ala 1800′s)  because its cheaper than hiring one man a chainsaw and paying for petrol and 1/5th of the time.

And then theres the natural aquifer/water table. In my country, I would never think if the need to treat this water. But due to the population/land use here. It is tainted/polluted and is not safe to drink. Another is the encroachment by the population for living/timber/poaching into national parks/reserves due to land pressure.

The tourist season

He made many mentions of ‘tourist season’ like we are a game animal to be caught/stalked/milked. It was quite strange and all three of us felt quite uncomfortable.

The offseason (now), life is cruizy. no income is expected so he can hang out with us now, and not force a sale because its offseason. During peak season, a day off costs him at least a 1000 rupees. 

So you think, I want to hang out with you, take you places, show you things for a few days and expect no return? Of course after 3 or 4 days, Im going to have to do a hard sell. Otherwise how can i survive? You tourists when its season, there are so many. The sale has to be made.

My response: I think you misunderstand the ‘small talk’ of a shop assistant to that of someone being a friend. In western countries they are different things. When you travel, you hope to meet friends. In reality in india, its a very rare thing that someone you talk to/hang out with doesnt have an alterior motive

Dreams for the future

He mentioned that his father had died, and he had a hard upbringing. His dream is to move to germany in 8 months to work to get enough money to create a boarding school to house/educate homeless/poor kids who cant afford it

 My thoughts: After all the other things said, and the fact that he could talk non stop about exploiting tourists for a couple of hours. I Hope that it is a true story. however i fear it is another ruse to get money from tourists to help build this school

Family

He has a brother and a sister. He gives money to his mother to help her live. And while his sister chooses to work. If she didn’t and thats what he would prefer he would also help support her. Its a fact of life. Women should not work. They take the jobs of men and create more competition. Their job should be to have kids and support their husband.

Previous ‘Girlfriends’

He mentioned of a previous ‘girlfriend’ from japan that wanted him to move there and marry. Her father had a factory and would give hime a manager job where he didnt have to do anything. Could spend months in india or japan as needed. But he didnt want that. He should work. The woman should not. He should be in india to look after his family.

I need to refine this a bit, and there is alot more that will come to mind. Was a very intense couple of hours.